Unger Academy Trading Hero: interview to Thomas Thurzo

Unger Academy Trading Hero: interview to Thomas Thurzo


So, my name is Thomas. I’m from Austria,
and I also live in Austria in Vienna. I’m 44 years old and I’m a full-time trader. So, I’ve been trading now since 6 or 7 years full-
time, but profitable only in the last year, I think. Only since one year I’m profitable. So then, automated trading is, for me,
the approach. Okay, before I started with automated
trading, I tried a lot of different things: Fibonacci, Gann relations and, you know,
all the crap that was once available. I tried everything. But for me, automated
trading is the approach that makes the most sense to me from the logical point of
view because I think the possibility to back test and optimize a trading approach and a
strategy, I think it’s a huge advantage compared to somebody, for example a discretionary
trader, who has to do everything live. So, of course, I know a lot of people are
complaining about back testing. They tell, “Okay, it’s no guarantee that it
will work in the future.” But I ask them, always then: “Okay, but do
you want to trade a strategy that has not worked in the past?” For me, it makes the
most sense to me automatic trading. That’s why I chose that approach. And one
important thing also, it’s the first thing that worked, I made money with.
That’s also important, why I chose this. So, I trade the most common futures. I trade only the future markets and the most
common available, 30 future markets. So, I think, for automated trading because of
diversification, they are the best choice; future markets.
There is crude oil, gold, heating oil, and so on. Oh, I am using Trade Navigator.
That is my main platform. I have, also, MultiCharts, but I use it more
for development. And I have Ninja Trader, but I don’t use Ninja Trader anymore
because coding in C sharp is a great thing. But I find it much easier with Easy
Language, MultiCharts. And you have a trading language for
Trade Navigator. It’s called Trade Sense. It’s also a
programming language created for trading. And I think it’s much easier to code with
that type of coding language. So, that’s why I choose trade Navigator.
I’m using it now since six years. I like it. I’m very happy with it. So, I’m used to it.
That’s also important. I think there is not a big advantage compared
to other platforms and MultiCharts because of Easy Language. I think, Easy Language is
the best language for coding for trading. And I have an account with Interactive Brokers
since 6 to 7 years. My data-feed is IQ data. I bought all of the courses available there. So, that’s an easy one, and I’m pretty
sure I will buy any course that is available from Andrea Unger.
I think it’s a high-quality course. I mean, to be honest, it is a blueprint to a
money printing machine; his courses. I will never understand why he is giving
away so much, knowledge and information for so less money. I think you
can buy it for– I don’t know what price it is. I think it’s 1000 and 1500—I don’t
remember, his main course. And you get so much detailed information.
So, it can make you money. To be honest, I will never understand that
from Andrea, why he is giving away that knowledge, but I bought it and I’m very
happy with it. And I can recommend it to everybody who
is interested in automated trading. But, don’t get me wrong. It’s not that type
that you buy the course, copy and paste the strategy and then you make money.
So, it’s not working like that. So, you have to study the material.
So, I think I watched his courses 20, 30, 50 times, and I still do not have absorbed
everything, what’s on the information, what’s available or what’s presented for me. So, you really have to study that material
in order to understand it, in order to– Okay, I don’t know the word in English—
whatever, but it’s good, okay? My main problem was the lack of
consistency. So, I think I bought a lot of courses, took
a lot of seminars, bought a lot of books. And I studied all this material presented
from the course, or the book or whatever, and then I did a lot of manual back testing,
and then I found something else. During the time, I tried to trade according
to the approach I was studying. I found something new, give up the other
one and started something new. And that has happened every second month
or so. I tried something new. And so, the lack of consistency.
And to overcome that with automated trading, I have the possibility to overcome
that because you develop a strategy. It runs; it works or it does not works,
whatever. And then, it is. The strategy is running in the back and you
can focus on developing new things. So, this is also a reason I chose automated
trading. So, it’s not particular from the course. The solution for me was the whole
approach with automated trading. So, I found the solution with Andrea’s
approach, it’s very detailed. You get very detailed information on his
courses, and you really can duplicate on what he’s saying.
He gives a lot of examples, everything. And you will be able to build strategies
from the scratch. And turn that into a money printing
machine. So that was the solution. I bought also from other trainers.
I bought also courses. But I can easily say that Andrea Unger’s course
is one of the best because it’s very detailed. It’s not, it’s without any mumbo-jumbo, or psychological or whatever you can read
and find in other things. It’s very detailed, it’s very well explained and
it’s from zero to… You find everything, what you need in order
to become profitable. To be honest, you don’t need any more. But I have bought also other courses
and there are also a few others good out there, but I think not one that is
so detailed and so good explained so well like Andrea’s courses.
And then, you can really see that it’s from a real trader, not from somebody
who likes to talk about trading. If you watch the course and you trade
for yourself, you will find the details that you will only realize if you had
trade for yourself. And you will see that they must be from
somebody who is also trading real money. Because, yeah. Oh, because it was cheap.
I’ll be honest. I know it sounds like bad advertising.
But to be honest, like I said, I don’t understand why he is giving away so good
material for such a low price. So, that was the main thing I was skeptical
because I thought it’d be– Yeah, that was the main thing.
But he proved me wrong. So, I have an account with €300,000,
but I’m only trading with the automated trading approach. I only use €100,000.
With the other €200,000, I do some stock trading and options trading,
but not automated trading. So, I started with €100,000.
I started on the first March, of 2017. So, that’s nine months ago. I started with
one strategy, and I still added new strategies. I’m now up to 38 live strategies.
And I have over 40 strategies in incubation, and I made, growing that time, I think €27000
or €29,000. It fluctuates every day, sometimes up,
sometimes down. But today, I’m up I think €27,000 or €28,000.
Oh yeah, that’s my performance. So, if you calculated with €100,000 account,
it’s close to 30% that I have achieved in 9 months. So, I am very happy with that.
And I hope it goes like that in the future. The most responsible for those results,
I think it’s Andrea’s course. So, what I have learned from him, I do
not 100%, but I would say 90% the same what he taught me in his course,
I do that. I think that was the reason why I achieved,
yeah, that money. And like I said, also, it’s rich of detail.
He explains everything in detail. So, you really can duplicate it.
You really can do what he presented in his course, and you can put it into
practice. You really can. He explains to you exactly what to do,
and you can do that. So, that’s what I liked the most about his course
because there are a lot of courses outside. And the mentor is teaching something
and you have to guess what he means, is not that well explained or it’s not clear
enough and lack of information and so on. So, I would recommend that journey to everybody who is interested in
automated trading. So, if you are interested in automated trading,
this course is, I think, on the first place. So, you really will learn everything about
position sizing, money management, creating strategies of course—everything. I can recommend that to everybody who
wants to be an automated trader. A lot of people are afraid of automated
trading because of coding. And I think coding is not the main problem
with automated trading. So, I think we can learn that very easy.
Language is like Easy Language with Trade Station and MultiCharts;
very easy to learn and understand. And I think it’s very similar to writing a book.
So, to learn to write, this is very easy. But you want to write the bestseller.
So, I think that’s the important part. Oh, that’s no really advice I can give to
other people because I think trading, I want to become the best trader.
First place is mine. So, everybody who wants to become a trader,
second place is the best you can achieve.

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